tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post6019634484915829253..comments2024-01-17T22:00:41.839-08:00Comments on Full Throttle and F**k It: Anti-ArtSteve Malleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-47701953108218218472008-07-21T23:19:00.000-07:002008-07-21T23:19:00.000-07:00Bernita, your stories show up *everywhere*. You ca...Bernita, your stories show up *everywhere*. You can't convince me you don't work hard...<BR/><BR/>Shauna, I understand the temptation to hide your light under a bushel.<BR/><BR/>Lana, no flattery needed. You do a hard job, and do it well...Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-50842740460734329922008-07-21T23:16:00.000-07:002008-07-21T23:16:00.000-07:00Barbara, 'no money' is one old and nasty chestnut....Barbara, 'no money' is one old and nasty chestnut. It just refuses to die, despite evidence to the contrary. <BR/><BR/>A dinner guest in my home trotted that one out the other night, stating with authority that it was impossible to make a living in the arts, despite the fact that I haven't had a 'real job' in over fifteen years, and that my 'little drawings' paid for the food on the table. <BR/><BR/>So it goes.Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-76393305113083038222008-07-21T22:25:00.000-07:002008-07-21T22:25:00.000-07:00Riss; Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out!Stev...Riss; Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out!<BR/><BR/>Steve; You flatter me. *blush*Lana Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06975996208260144558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-4810323321336296752008-07-21T15:33:00.000-07:002008-07-21T15:33:00.000-07:00This is the reason I don't talk about my fiction w...This is the reason I don't talk about my fiction writing outside the blog world and my writers' groups. I'm a little less guarded about my pay-the-bills medical writing, but even that attracts odd comments I'd just as soon avoid.Shauna Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03871768714926149114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-41231035305397817672008-07-21T13:36:00.000-07:002008-07-21T13:36:00.000-07:00Productive? Moi?~falls off the chair laughing~Productive? Moi?<BR/>~falls off the chair laughing~Bernitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264585685253812090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-4088935197277657232008-07-19T15:18:00.000-07:002008-07-19T15:18:00.000-07:00I, too, deal with anti-artists, once in awhile. I'...I, too, deal with anti-artists, once in awhile. I've had a couple of people say to me they were thinking of writing....but had never gotten around to it, or, they'd been talked out of it by their significant other who had said many writers don't make any money.Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-59036736115885134332008-07-19T14:36:00.000-07:002008-07-19T14:36:00.000-07:00Thanks. I got it dropped in the mail quite franti...Thanks. I got it dropped in the mail quite frantically in true pantser style at like, 5 'til the post office closed. (c: It was great. I had Alex working on getting the printer working and Johannes downstairs waiting until I was out of "moster lady i'm in a hurry" mode trying to get the last things in order and organized...and then Alex and I threw some not PJ's on and drove to the post office...he did the talking. It worked out. Barely. So now we wait. Phew.Risshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582122840116012400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-2481397508267865632008-07-19T14:04:00.000-07:002008-07-19T14:04:00.000-07:00Bernita, you're so productive, I can't imagine you...Bernita, you're so productive, I can't imagine you pay them much attention.<BR/><BR/>Riss, there've been a big old mess of influences on me that way. Every creative-type I meet influences me somehow. As I like to say, I take what I like and leave the rest.<BR/><BR/>Lana, you're a brave woman. I didn't have what it took to hustle paintings. I know well the BS you wade through to do so, and my hat is off to you. <BR/><BR/>Riss, still wishing you good luck with that German residency. I haven't forgotten!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-49564534389862274152008-07-19T06:31:00.000-07:002008-07-19T06:31:00.000-07:00Lana, I have to agree with you. It's a lot easier ...Lana, I have to agree with you. It's a lot easier to find funding if you have a "real" event that you're going to be hosting. Then again, I have to say that some credit is due where, well, it's due. I am going to be participating in an art fair out here in Kansas City that while it does have a booth rental fee the things they are providing are all done by the city and most of it for free. And, there's no judging or anything, you just get in. Which is nice. It could be problematic in the end but really, it's refreshing to not have to prove myself over and over again. You're either an artist or you aren't. Also-when you get into the higher level stuff, there's some really great opportunities out there. I recommend checking out www.resartis.org It's artist residences but there's some good information out there, including ones that pay you instead of the other way around. (c:Risshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582122840116012400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-56722753445132361212008-07-19T00:27:00.000-07:002008-07-19T00:27:00.000-07:00You are SOOO right! That's part of the reason I do...You are SOOO right! That's part of the reason I don't like titling my paintings. The image does my talking for me. Same thing for an artist's statement. I'm not here to explain my art to anyone. I produce it--you experience what you will, y'know? But noooOOOooo, the "powers that be" insist on all kinds of flowery words or they won't even <I>consider</I> you work. *snort* WhatEVER!<BR/>But I've seriously digressed from the subject, once again. Another reason I should never be trusted with words!<BR/>Most of our modern society (at least here in the West,) is "anti-art" in general. In school aspiring artists are encouraged to learn something "valuable" to fall back on, at least. Do we do this to aspiring lawyers, bakers, accountants? At art fairs, the artists pay the fees. At other fairs, the visiting public does. It's so asinine!<BR/>Gads...I've digressed AGAIN. See?Lana Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06975996208260144558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-44603566866621487152008-07-18T12:39:00.000-07:002008-07-18T12:39:00.000-07:00Oh boy. Ok, lemme think...Past: Caravaggio and Bo...Oh boy. Ok, lemme think...Past: Caravaggio and Bocklin. Those are easy. Specifically Bocklin's Isle of the Dead. Current...that's slightly more difficult. I would say Karen Jacobs (though i haven't seen any new work in a bit) and Julia Watkins-specifically the 4 robed monks. I have others in both categories but those will do for now. Ok-so here's the question of the moment, is there a specific artist, not one whom you'd consider a favorite, or even really care for their work all that much, that has influenced you and the direction you've taken?Risshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582122840116012400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-28311076702499052812008-07-18T05:54:00.000-07:002008-07-18T05:54:00.000-07:00Yup. Met them.Thank you.Yup. Met them.<BR/>Thank you.Bernitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264585685253812090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-19627050270827378482008-07-18T00:28:00.000-07:002008-07-18T00:28:00.000-07:00Riss, past: Boucher and Fragonard, present: Jon Fo...Riss, past: Boucher and Fragonard, present: Jon Foster, Frank Frazetta. Your turn.<BR/><BR/>Charles, you're dead on. We all know these types, and I suspect that's no coincidence...<BR/><BR/>Lisa, my favorite is, "My cousin/aunt/postman/etc. can draw, makes it look just like anything. Me, I can't draw a stick figure..." Ugh.Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-79054910673891531402008-07-17T22:27:00.000-07:002008-07-17T22:27:00.000-07:00I think I was lucky to have hooked up with a full ...I think I was lucky to have hooked up with a full time painter before I committed to fiction writing myself, because I got an up close and personal view of the characters in the art world -- and they are, of course equally represented in the writing world. <BR/><BR/>It mystified me at first that he was never forthcoming with strangers about what he does and that when people would find out that he paints and they started asking questions, he would change the subject immediately.<BR/><BR/>It didn't take long to figure out why. If I had a nickel for every time I heard someone say "oh, my wife paints too", as if being an occasional hobbyist was at all the same thing, and I know it makes Scott crazy, which is why he avoids talking art at all unless it's with another painter that he knows or I'm grilling him about something.<BR/><BR/>I've found that people who are really writing and who are putting the time into what they do rarely have much to say about it and they seem to take a similar stance when accosted by non-writers or people who claim to be great writers (except they don't actually write anything).Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665632105920753931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-76265682354163356572008-07-17T18:12:00.000-07:002008-07-17T18:12:00.000-07:00I've known plenty of these types. Always an excus...I've known plenty of these types. Always an excuse, or just that their work is soooo impressive that no one understands them. They don't "fit" into a genre so they can't sell their work. The academic types don't like them, or the common readers don't understand them, or...well something or another. They sure can be a drain.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8052003455667869062.post-56913665329172653272008-07-17T16:57:00.000-07:002008-07-17T16:57:00.000-07:00A-bloody-men sir. Anti-Artists...and I agree, if ...A-bloody-men sir. Anti-Artists...and I agree, if you have work and you just haven't figured it out yet...that's ok, talk away. God knows I've done it. And The Failures (teehee) are my favorite...they're like a nasty skin rash. And the power they have is really pretty scary. I'm also ok with people who do stuff and realize that it's probably not going to be their ticket to whatever...but they do it anyway. Who are some of your favorite artists? 1 past, 1 present. Go. (c: <BR/><BR/>And, in the pubs, you just can't understand what they say as well as you can when they're simpering in a coffee shop.Risshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16582122840116012400noreply@blogger.com